Dave the Drummer vs Neal Adams
Here is an email exchange between our very own Dave the Drummer and Neal Adams.

Sent: Feb 10, 2007 8:07 AM
To: Neal@nealadams.com
Subject: Science

http://www.nealadams.com/morescience.html

Dude, you're really good at the illustration thing but seriously, stay away from the marijuana because it's wrecked your mind.
Take it easy, stay cool and get some basic education before paying for the videos. If you've paid for them already then you have my sympathies. People get ripped off all the time but it's easy to avoid if you don't have a couple of bongs before picking up the phone.
See if you can get some of your money back, tell them you won't use the vids anymore or something.
Either that or see if you can get them to make you one of the 'face on Mars'. That'll be cool. You could get it "professionally retouched" to make it actually look like a face. Preferably the face of JFK huh ? That'd be appropriate.
I notice you have the interview with George Noory on your site.
How come you don't have the interview with Dr. Steven Novella on the site too ?

See you around dude.
Remember : no more wacky baccy before buying things !
Good man.
Keep up the good art stuff.


D

 

From: Neal Adams
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: Science

Dave
What is your problem dude?
Do you really want to question me or challenge me , then do it man . If you're simply a chicken-sh** then blow away like all of your ilk.
This is kinda like a monkey throwing his shit at lions as they leave the glen. God forbid the lion turns around and confronts them.
put up or shut-up "dude".

P.S. The reason i don't mention Novella's broadcast is because of the cowardly and unethical way he runs it, (Which, by the way he never warned me of,)
He did the interview , and that was jake . Everyone had a chance to speak . They flubbed around like amateures and I'd have to say I did very well . THEN when I was off . They did another show that didn't include me at all . I was not there to defend myself. and so they assassinated me ,..
my work,..my character and my theory., relentlessly . any other honorable person would have re-called me in the face of that cowardly attack
and let me defend myself.
You heard it ,"DUDE" . didn't you ? If I'm lyin' I'm dyin' . Right ?!!!
If they chop that shit off the end and I'll reccomend the show. They won't . I'd look too good. You and they know it.
Write when you get the gumption to have a real Q. and A . or debate, dude.
Regards
neal Adams

 

EVERYTHING IN BOLD BELOW IS NEAL ADAMS' ADDITIONS

Sent: Feb 11, 2007 6:13 AM
To: Neal Adams
Subject: Re: Science


Ohhhh I seeee !
You're getting all aggressive with me because I'm onto something right ?
Well what could it be I wonder ...

Why do you think I have a problem ?
Have you been looking at my car ? It needs a serious wash so that's a problem, yeah.

You think you're the lion and I'm the monkey throwing excrement at you ?

Nothing so far. You've merely insisted that you are as inteligent as a monkey. we'll see about that.

 

Well you're right about that. After all monkies are far more intelligent than lions who are merely loud, aggressive and lazy.
Hmmmm, yeah, that about sums up what I know about you so far.
You've been aggressive with me. You're loud and you have the laziest attitude to finding things out that I've ever encountered.
So turn around and confront me.
I'll scamper back up into the tree of rationality showing you my ass while you roar impotently from the ground with the tattered remains of your fractured sanity.
Or prove me wrong about you.

Now here you're insisting that I prove you wrong without !.asking a question , or 2. making a point.
So , you've demonstrated that you can't provide a logical progression of thought. Perhaps
you are not as inteligent as a monkey. No points or questions yet.

 

The real reason you didn't mention Dr. Novella's interview of you is because it exposes you as the fluffy-thinking, lazy science, misinformed and self deluded crank you actually are.
There are absolutely no shreds of evidence for any of the ideas you've absorbed from other people. Other than your own "I can't believe it" evidence that is.
You simply say, time and again, that you can't believe something and so it must have been done some other way.
That's not a good way to find out about things. That's the way religious nuts do things. They don't have any evidence either.
It all makes me wonder where you picked this stuff up in the first place. Who got to you ?
Who planted this rubbish inside your head ? Aliens ?

Now , you are truly rambling . It's almost as if you are suffering from some sort of mental disorder .
Do you know 'any' science at all. anyone who does would have made a point by now. I have to
ask you seriously , are you under a doctors care ? Is someone watching over you . in order to connect
the dots for you . I can reccomend a doctor if you have none , son.

No, I'm being silly now. But seriously, where on Earth did you pick up such nonsense ?
You see all these things can actually be corrected.
All it takes is a bit of effort on your part.
After all, not knowing things is what drives people to find out about them.

All the work you have done with the comic books takes real talent and I admire it I really do.
So of course I (naiively) assume that the rest of your talents will be equally good and as focused and rational as your art work.
I was seriously mistaken there.
Why haven't you put the same kind of effort into finding out about science as you have in producing the intricate and stunningly realistic comic book art ?
That's what has me puzzled.

Now , you are speaking as if you were in a room alone , unaware if anyone is listening at all .
Still, no questions and no facts . still rambling The fact that I pay any attention
to you at all is possibly a grave error, if you are mentally disturbed, which
Iam beginning to suspect. This CAN'T be merely stupidity, No one is this stupid.


If Dr. Novella edited the interview to remove the last 15 minutes of conversation after you left then I am afraid that the way you came across wouldn't change at all.
All the things you said are still there. Just because you feel he (they) character assassinated you doesn't change what you said.
And remember it's the things that you said that are important, not the fact that you were talking. It's the content, not the act of speaking.
The content of your words was ... well there wasn't any content. At least no content that could be used by someone trying to find out about how the world actually works that is.

As was pointed out you did actually have far longer than any other guest on the show to speak so you really need to get your ideas together in a 20 minute package and be prepared for them to go through the peer review process. You're also wrong about only legitimate scientists can submit papers to journals. There are plenty of journals. Find one and submit your ideas with their supporting evidence and then let the peer review process take it's course.
But be warned, peer review is not a walk in the park. They will treat your paper in the same way that all others are treated ie. they will tear it apart to look for holes and if they find any they will drive a fleet of tanks through them.
If you have your stuff together enough so there are no holes for them to find then you'll get your paper published and you can turn around to Dr. Novella and say "I was right sonny. Now shut your face."
Then he can shut the hell up and you get legitimacy.

Well , I read all that and not one fact or one question. Your ranting is so ,
well, just plain nutty as to be kinda funny,at this point. You clearly had no intention
to ask or make a point at all , but to ramble on and rant. Like the town fool who
somehow believes he is making some sort of sense to the people who walk by ,
while they shake their heads in sorrow and amusemant that the fool's disconnected invectives
are actually funny , in a sad way.
And on and on you go,...........

Remember only a peer reviewed journal will give you that. I'm not talking about some fringe magazine where the UFO nuts go to get their rubbish published. I mean one of the scientifically legitimate peer reviewed journals.
Your stuff is physics and geology so go to Physical Review Letters or the Journal of Metamorphic Geology or similar.

Oh and as for me having a debate with you, well I don't think there's any point.
You're not peer reviewed or published so there's nothing to debate.
Yet.
All you have are conjectures.
Get some reliable, repeatable supporting evidence and get back to me.
Or preferably don't get back to me at all. Instead get yourelf to a journal and get published then you don't have to bother writing to people like me.
Until that point you'll always be on the fringes.
Another laughable kook with some mad ideas that no one in their right mind can possiby take seriously.

And it goes on and on. Unbelievable. Do not, repeat,...NO NOT write to me again ,
if you expect an answer ,
unless you completely apologise , in the strongest terms . and unless you wish to
ask valid questions and TRY to understand what we would be talking about .
I can extend my pity just so far. See a doctor is my advice.
Neal Adams

Do it.
You're desperate to do it.
What are you afraid of ?
Won't your ideas stand the test ?
Get in there and do it !
Or are you really a wacko ?

D

 

From: Neal Adams
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Science

Hey kid
What kind of mindless jerk are you? How stupid do you have to be to know that to show someone is wrong .
you just have to give facts. Is your head so void of facts that you merely blow hot air?
let's see just how stupid you are . we'll read and see when you come up with an inteligent question or a salient
"fact" that I can't successfully dispute

 

Sent: Feb 11, 2007 8:50 AM
To: Neal Adams
Subject: Re: Science


So you are a wacko then.
Fair enough.
I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but once again you'vre proven yourself to be irrational and quite possibly unhinged.
It's no skin off my nose dude.
You're the one getting all riled up here, not me.
I haven't quoted any facts at you because you don't deal with facts so there's no point in discussing them with you is there ?
I have asked some questions of you concerning your understanding of things hoping I'd get at least a non-insulting reply in return but to no avail.

I was hoping you'd turn out to be something a little more real than the way you came across in Dr. Novella's interview but you've certainly made it clear that there isn't anything more to you than the nonsense you expounded there.
Truly a shame.
I am disappointed.
You will get no apology from me at all. In fact considering you're the one doing the insulting I suggest you apologise to me.
Or has irrationality robbed you of politeness and basic common courtesey as well ?

Thanks for your time.

D

 

From: Neal Adams
To: Dave@RealScenes
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Science

Then buzz of little monkey-boy, and good ridance.
Neal Adams

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